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| Sprintman |
 Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:18 pm |
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Eric Kiltie wrote: Would you care to reconsider the wording and / or content of your reply Steve? ... or shall we leave it to fester in the archives of pointlessness?
No I am happy to let it stand as it is.  |
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| Eric Kiltie |
| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:36 pm |
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Okay dokey.
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| Murray (CT) |
| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:23 pm |
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Adding my bit of fuel to the fire.
In general I do not think they are a good place to have dogs, this is as someone who has taken his dog to a couple of events, however if there is no suitable alternative and as long as the dog is under control at all times, and is of a nature and temprement that it will not be stressed by the noise etc then I do not have any problem with competitors bringing their dogs, or indeed their children.
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| Broomsticklady |
| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:50 pm |
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Eric Kiltie wrote: g4addicted wrote: My personal view is that, while I love dogs, I don't have one as it does not suit my lifestyle (being away at weekends). If I did have one, it would probably be at the kennels this weekend, as that would be more fair on the animal than leaving it locked in the car with the window open....
Regarding " locked in car / window open"; sounds like you consider it to be an act of cruelty. Believe it or not, we often leave the Discovery tailgate open in the afternoons (in the garden) and the dog chooses to hop in and sleep there for a few hours. The back of the car belongs to the dog; it's her space; she feels comfortable there.
If my dog is in the car at an event, it's only on the basis that Steph and I are happy with her welfare. If I was in any doubt, I'd pack up and go.
In essence, with whatever I do, there's a balance but the dog's wellbeing will always tip it.
Right - family feud starts here!! He's right to an extent - we both love dogs almost as much as cats (and have 7 of them!) but we choose not to have dogs because of our life style. He's wrong tho, in the kennel comment - if I'd committed to a dog, it wouldn't be kenneled, it would be with me - I like my children close as anyone who's met our cats (substitute children) will know. Eric sums it up nicely for me - anything done is in the interest of the dog - totally agree. If the dog is happy to be in the car and is regularly fussed and watered I don't have a problem. What I think no-one will disagree with is that some people lock dogs in a car leave the window open a crack and then disappear for hours on end after their own pursuits. Wrong in all respects so far as I am concerned - you have the dog, you love it, nurture it and care for it - you don't leave it where it can over heat and suffer.
Now if you really want controversy - kids - let them run the paddock freely at their own risk - target practice so far as I'm concerned!!!  |
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| JC |
| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:37 pm |
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I think this thread has the potential to become unsavory.
It should be locked and a new one started.  |
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| Eric Kiltie |
| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:33 pm |
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JC wrote: I think this thread has the potential to become unsavory.
It should be locked and a new one started.
I think you could be right ...
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| mark two |
| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:38 pm |
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| There's lots to be said in favour of man's best friend, but be honest guys at the last Boyndie meeting it looked like Crufts. There were doggies of all shapes and sizes. Every dog was on a lead, but motor sport can be dangerous and a dogs natural reaction spotting a bunny wabbit is to go for it with the risk of breaking free from a casually held lead (often in the hands of a child). Worst case scenario is a nasty accident on track. We shouldn't be taking that gamble, bearing in mind the Sports safety approach with fire resistant overalls, gloves, helmets, roll cages, seats, kill switches, barriers, and so on. Yes, competitors with dogs are generally responsible people, it's the paying public who are innocently unaware of the potential problems. |
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| g4addicted |
| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:51 pm |
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I did say it was a personal thing..... To be honest, the problems are usually with doges belonging to spectators (a bit like the kid thing really).
That aside, the MSA rules are clear, and I know that the competitor/owners who choose to bring their dogs will be sensible about it. |
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